Whangarei Mayor Vince Cocurullo spoke candidly with Paul Brenna about the intensifying battle over water fluoridation. Despite pressure from health officials, the mayor defends his council's defiance of the government's fluoridation order, insisting they haven't broken any laws despite facing potential legal repercussions. He calls for a court review to clarify safety standards surrounding fluoride. The conversation also touches on public concerns and the balance between local governance and government mandates.