With 25 years in oil and gas, energy expert Larry Blair talks to Don Nicolson and Jaspreet Boparai about New Zealand's energy struggles, highlighting the shift from gas to coal, the challenges of importing fuels, and the political and economic hurdles limiting energy solutions. He advocates for geothermal energy in the short term and nuclear power in the long term, urging a broader, more realistic energy strategy while promoting public discussion to drive informed policy changes.