In this captivating episode of Real People, journey with Claire through her extraordinary family history and personal experiences. Travel back to 1817 with her Kiwi ancestor, the Rev John Butler, and then to her famous English ancestor, architect Sir Edward Lutyens. Discover how her family crossed paths with the philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti, and hear about Agatha Christie becoming her mother’s godmother. Claire shares how she fell in love in a Wellington restaurant and her adventures with the iconic NZ performance group BLERTA in the 1970s. She also opens up about her lifelong struggle with vaccine injury—and the surprising cure she found in copper. This episode intertwines music, history, and psychology in a way that’s simply magical!