Environmental advocate Asha Andersen of Flora and Fauna of Aotearoa sheds light on the ongoing use of 1080 and other chain poisons in New Zealand’s conservation efforts. Arguing that these toxins are indiscriminately harming ecosystems—including vital invertebrates at the base of the food chain—Asha criticises government investment in poison-based pest control and highlights the lack of transparency and informed consent among community groups. She stresses the need for a shift toward humane, effective alternatives like trapping, which would also foster jobs and deepen ecological understanding. The discussion underscores the spiritual and cultural disconnect created by poisoning the land, especially for Māori communities whose voices often go unheard in decision-making.