Maree Buscke and Marty Gibson discuss the school lunches controversy, arguing that the outrage reflects a deeper ideological battle over entitlement and personal responsibility. They critique the socialist mindset that expects government handouts without gratitude and discuss the role of Maori cultural traditions in shaping attitudes toward reciprocity. The conversation expands into broader issues, including the politicisation of professional bodies, media bias, and the historical revisionism surrounding the Treaty of Waitangi. They also tackle concerns about the growing influence of gangs in prisons and the mainstream media’s failure to prioritise pressing social issues over trivial distractions