Paul Brennan and Ramesh Thakur dive into the evolving geopolitical landscape, focusing on the implications of Zelensky's White House showdown and increasing Chinese naval activity in the Tasman Sea. Thakur, a former UN official and political scholar, reflects on the significant shifts under the new administration, highlighting Trump's rapid disruption of traditional foreign policy approaches. They also touch on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, with Thakur suggesting that Zelensky's popularity might be clouding his judgment, as many around the world perceive NATO's expansion as a provocation to Russia.