Host Dieuwe de Boer talks to Paul Facey, known as “the Other Paul”, an Anglican historian from Sydney, about the challenges facing the Anglican Church, particularly regarding liberalism and “wokeness.” Facey is spearheading an initiative he calls an “Anglican reconquista,” aiming to restore traditional liturgical practices overshadowed by contemporary worship styles. He emphasises the importance of forming genuine friendships within church communities to combat liberal ideologies and avoid excommunication. The discussion also touches on the historical ties between Christianity and politics, advocating for a return to Christian principles in national governance.